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Gary Gorman "What's New in the 1031 Exchange Industry"

Gary GormanThis seminar took place at the Realtor Rally Builder Expo Tech Fair, March 2, 2004, at the Colorado Convention Center.

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Part 1  -  4:55
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Introduction of Gary Gorman - Not a "How to do it" class, but a "What's new," "What's the latest thing in §1031," "What's coming up" class - Handouts: 1. Notes; 2-4. articles - New ruling in 2002: Tenant-in-common transactions, or "TICs" - TIC rules cover 35 or fewer people who don't know each other - People who are being sold their interest by a sponsor or a promoter or a developer, etc. - These rules do not cover people who are friends that buy property together - What if the person isn't somebody that you know personally, but somebody that you have heard of?
Part 2  -  5:23
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Does this cover REITs? - (What are "REITs"?) - "a Cookbook ruling;" a "revenue procedure;" or "Rev Proc:" the IRS's guarantee - Does it qualify for 1031 or not? - How many different rules do you need to meet to qualify for a 1031 exchange? - Search on Google under the term "Tenant-in-common" yields how many hits? - How many of those are sponsors or people selling TIC programs? - How many are any good? - In the 2 years since the procedure was allowed, how many were approved by the IRS? - What one thing was approved?
Part 3  -  4:50
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"Some of the things that I've seen..." - Do your due-diligence! - A $12.5 million product marketed at $18 million - Are there NO good TIC deals out there? - A question that often comes up: "Can you, the Realtor, get a commission for referring your client to a TIC sponsor or TIC seller?" - If Fred Jones calls the TIC provider directly, do you the Realtor get a commission? - What is it that the TIC salesman is selling? Real estate? Or a security? - How many specialists in this area say real estate? How many say security? - Series 7 license.
Part 4  -  7:03
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A recent Supreme Court case: what did they rule? - What if you're a principle? - What if a Realtor finds a building that she wants to buy, but she's $2million short, can she bring some other people in? - What if you have no connection with the others except through "Sam Seller" that you hired to sell the other $2 million? - What exactly are we talking about? Fred Jones wants to invest $1million into a $100million dollar building and the other $99 million is being bought by other people - Is it a "like-kind" exchange? - At what point in the transaction do you get the IRS determination?
Part 5  -  6:04
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Does this mean there are NO good TIC deals out there? - You as Realtors must do your job! - In the 2 years since the IRS opened the gates and allowed this, how many TIC companies applied for and were approved for 1031 treatment? - What percentage of these deals are "winging it"? - "There was a court case that came out just recently..." What happens to the money if an Intermediary goes bankrupt?
Part 6  -  5:16
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What percentage of Intermediaries put the money in commingled accounts? - Can you MAKE your QI put the money in a segregated account? - If not, can you change Intermediaries? - If the Intermediary has a trust account, would that be protected? - In a 1031 exchange, what happens technically? - The technical difference between a Realtor's escrow account and a QI's exchange account - Be Smart! Make sure that all that money goes into separate, segregated accounts; ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL!!! - The Nebraska QI and ENRON.
Part 7  -  5:31
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The Intermediary in Hawaii and his personal account in Hong Kong - Fred and Sue Jones are selling 3 properties in 3 separate exchanges: one account or three separate accounts? - What is 1031Accesssm? - Selling 3 and buying one: does the 180-day clock start ticking after the sale of the 1st property? - List your "dogs" first!
Part 8  -  5:09
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How to solve the 3-property problem with a reverse exchange - What is a reverse exchange? - how does it work? - Why are reverse exchanges expensive? - What happened to the QI in Minnesota? - What happened to the Hawaii QI? - Are there rules or regs for QIs?
Part 9  -  4:29
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Should the states or government legislate QIs? - Are all QIs bonded? - How many QIs are there? - What percentage of those is bonded? - How do you know? - Does the insurance company require segregated accounts? - What happens to the bank interest? - Why do QIs commingle accounts? - How is the interest handled at the end? - Are you taxed on the interest?
Part 10  -  6:35
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"Way back in 1951..." the landmark case "Bloomberg Coca-cola vs. Commissioner" - What if it's a separate business? - Why did it change last year? - Build-to-suit transactions - How do you do that?
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Can Fred Jones sell 4 properties and roll them into the construction of a nice building on another piece of land provided that it happens within 180 days? - if you own a piece of bare land, can you sell it to a relative, buy back part of it, then sell a separate piece of property, and roll those funds through a 1031 exchange? - If the building isn't completed win a 180 days due to not your fault, what happens? -
Part 12  -  5:10
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Construction exchanges and EATs - Can Jones Investments, LLC, also be the contractor that builds the building? - What if Fred owns a concrete finishing business and he does the concrete work can he subcontract the other parts of it? - What instrument is used to transfer ownership of the EAT to Jones? - The legal document called the Option.
Part 13  -  5:48
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If Fred has already started construction of his building can a 1031 be done midstream? - Do lease rates have to be Fair Market Value? - Hot Topics: What's hot with the IRS right now? - Related party rules - Who is "related"?
Part 14  -  5:43
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LLCs, Corporations and Partnerships: are they "related" to you? - What about estates? - Hot Topic number 2: Qualified Intermediaries - What can happen if I change my 45 day form (after the 45th day)? - Interplay with §121 - "The Joint Committee of Congress is talking about changing the rule..."
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Conclusion.